tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7290395635850697105.post2222312535363244795..comments2023-09-22T13:57:20.922-04:00Comments on From The Valley To The Palais: Rich kid, poor kidnappy valley girlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10788949037047084412noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7290395635850697105.post-35571982087262079942009-08-13T12:58:36.479-04:002009-08-13T12:58:36.479-04:00Does any one know where I can download rich kid po...Does any one know where I can download rich kid poor kid for free??? Thanks CharlieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7290395635850697105.post-52925350239255398052008-11-27T15:04:00.000-05:002008-11-27T15:04:00.000-05:00Wow, what I miss out on living in Albania! Am goin...Wow, what I miss out on living in Albania! Am going to look for the download immeditaely tho prob won't have the patience to watch it, internet is so slow here, it will stop start all the time. I wdn't let my kids do a t.v prog like that but sounded so fascinating. And I do think it has some worth however 'engineered' or edited,it DOES give a glimpse into 2 very different lives, even with nothign said. Society is very divided and that ignorance does breed prejudice & fear &/or misconceptionsParadise Lost In Translationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08507703496080523959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7290395635850697105.post-3853952689429927082008-11-24T08:38:00.000-05:002008-11-24T08:38:00.000-05:00I saw this and my reaction was the same as yours. ...I saw this and my reaction was the same as yours. How on earth could any parent be comfortable with their teenage daughter being filmed like this? It was obvious from teh outset that she'd be edited to sound like an extreme end of the spectrum - and they managed to get film of her saying dreadful things. But, as a parent, not to have any rights over what was broadcast (I'd imagine) is madness!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7290395635850697105.post-41030484669600897702008-11-20T08:55:00.000-05:002008-11-20T08:55:00.000-05:00I heard a rumour (urban myth?) that she has allege...I heard a rumour (urban myth?) that she has allegedly since been expelled from her school for statements made in uniform. When I heard the school she attended I was stunned - they have a reputation for only taking the very very brightest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7290395635850697105.post-50829614116975069402008-11-19T04:40:00.000-05:002008-11-19T04:40:00.000-05:00PM - good point - and I'm sure Alice would have pu...PM - good point - and I'm sure Alice would have pushed to do the film (she was into drama and probably, foolishly, thought it would make her a celebrity) but I would think the parents MUST have had to give their consent to the filmmakers. Plus they seemed quite happy to have let the camera crew into their house, car etc.....<BR/><BR/>A work in progress - aha, someone else who watched it! From what I've read elsewhere I believe this girl does attend a London day school, in Dulwich. And yes, you could be right about the rebellion thing. Natalie's family was quite extreme, I agree. But I guess the filmmakers were just trying to find the greatest contrast in the same street. <BR/><BR/>RM - see above - you may be able to watch again from C4 at some point....<BR/><BR/>Tara - yes, these programmes always are very biased, and not at all subtle. That's why I think the parents should have known better. <BR/><BR/>Hadriana - yes, from my experience girls' private schools are incredibly bitchy. I am just glad I have boys...<BR/><BR/>Audrey- you make good points, although the rich girl's parents weren't really the sort that would have wanted to be famous. I think they probably just didn't think it through.nappy valley girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10788949037047084412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7290395635850697105.post-60760852512774048612008-11-19T04:33:00.000-05:002008-11-19T04:33:00.000-05:00Expat Mum - agreed, I think it's such a sensitive ...Expat Mum - agreed, I think it's such a sensitive subject that I would never let my children speak on national TV about it, whether they went state or private. <BR/><BR/>Nunhead Mum - well, that could range from anything from Bob the Builder to Kevin McLoud on Grand Designs, couldn't it? <BR/><BR/>NB - that is one of the reasons that in my heart of hearts, I would rather my little boys went state to begin with. I don't want them turning into little toffee-nosed snobs!<BR/><BR/>Bathsheba - I think they are bound to learn something from the experience - if only that they should never have taken part! (Glad to have found your Stockwell blog by the way...)<BR/><BR/>Iota- it was interesting. I believe it can be downloaded from the C4 website - although don't know if this would work in the US! There was a clip on Youtube, but it seems to have disappeared....nappy valley girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10788949037047084412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7290395635850697105.post-71584230817964866992008-11-19T03:36:00.000-05:002008-11-19T03:36:00.000-05:00I didn't see the program, having gathered from the...I didn't see the program, having gathered from the review and your post that it would be another example of the class system alive and thriving here and all the ridiculous stuff that goes along with it. But you've raised an interesting question about what were the parents thinking. I would guess that in today's celebrity culture where people don't really care WHY they are in the news that the parent's didn't think it through. Also, I would also surmise, given the rich girls points of view that she was really echoing her parents anyway so they wouldn't be aware of how asine it might sound on national tv. Sad.Audreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13284270452155749700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7290395635850697105.post-70994151204084041562008-11-18T17:18:00.000-05:002008-11-18T17:18:00.000-05:00Yes. These programmes do engineer stuff. That said...Yes. These programmes do engineer stuff. That said I'm determined (laugh as if we have the money to do otherwise!) to send our children to state school. I went to a private girls school and it was mega bitchy. TV cameras? No thanks.Hadriana's Treasureshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03740533954842010870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7290395635850697105.post-14982181069280090242008-11-18T08:46:00.000-05:002008-11-18T08:46:00.000-05:00I find these sorts of programmes a bit manipulativ...I find these sorts of programmes a bit manipulative and too 'tidy' to be real.<BR/>Are people really that stereotypical or have they found the most outrageous pair they could and then manipulated the show for good ratings.<BR/>Or am I just too cynical?<BR/>But hell no, I wouldn't let myself or my kids anywhere near a camera like that!<BR/><BR/>By the way, thanks so much for visiting and leaving lovely comments on my last day at Dawn Till Rusk. I really appreciate it.<BR/>Am no longer a Rusk, am a Sticky from now on!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01124513427678555863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7290395635850697105.post-85192791030718821702008-11-18T00:23:00.000-05:002008-11-18T00:23:00.000-05:00nope, definately not. would have loved to have see...nope, definately not. would have loved to have seen it, though. i think it sounds fascinating. I'd also be interested on my own teens' take on it.A Mumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03933820566793650208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7290395635850697105.post-46301060426636048352008-11-17T17:40:00.000-05:002008-11-17T17:40:00.000-05:00Oh - I saw this! I was dying to have someone to d...Oh - I saw this! I was dying to have someone to discuss it with but no one I know watched it either. I couldn't believe that Alice was for real - I half thought she was playacting or something - at one point her mother made a comment about Alice having always been "quite a character." She (Alice) also called her mother a bitch at one point, and they left that in. I wonder if the whole thing was an elaborate teenage rebellion acting-out exercise. I also thought her "revelation" at the end was just a little bit too neat. I can't imagine that any 15-year-old who attends a London day school would be that thick, but did they make a reference to her attending boarding school? Not sure. Most shocking for me were the conditions that Natalie and her brother grew up in - the mother seemed completely incapable of taking care of them, the flat, or herself. In a way the producers did not do themselves any favors by choosing that family, because you couldn't argue that their poverty was not self-inflicted. I realize that the mom is mentally ill, but it's a bit unfair to imply that someone on benefits, who doesn't work and can't even clean up after herself, should be living to the same standard as a middle class family that works hard.A Work in Progresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12013534732589707224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7290395635850697105.post-3187693737253135262008-11-17T17:27:00.000-05:002008-11-17T17:27:00.000-05:00I wish I had seen it. And no, no way would I let ...I wish I had seen it. And no, no way would I let the boys do it. Of course, we are assuming that the parents were consulted. From what I hear 15 year-old girls are a force to be reckoned with these days!Potty Mummyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04751869800592294891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7290395635850697105.post-52045558849278522712008-11-17T14:24:00.000-05:002008-11-17T14:24:00.000-05:00No, I absolutely wouldn't allow my children to app...No, I absolutely wouldn't allow my children to appear in a documentary. I wouldn't want to myself, for that matter.<BR/><BR/>Sounds an interesting programme.Iota https://www.blogger.com/profile/08507184283437057648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7290395635850697105.post-28978613820150959652008-11-17T12:16:00.000-05:002008-11-17T12:16:00.000-05:00Yes - and the sad thing is that I certainly have m...Yes - and the sad thing is that I certainly have met a few who are EXACTLY like the mum and don't live a million miles from her. Let's just hope the whole family learns from the experience.Bathshebahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13485397130470355889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7290395635850697105.post-1073632767552499692008-11-17T11:30:00.000-05:002008-11-17T11:30:00.000-05:00"Just cummapence" in my harsh book...in my generou..."Just cummapence" in my harsh book...in my generous-spirit book, there may be some sympathy. I'm so pleased that The Boy spent his early years in a state school in Finsbury Park, so had some vital exposure to people from all walks of life..Nota Benehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00969705852180234416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7290395635850697105.post-14749608373305568522008-11-17T11:09:00.000-05:002008-11-17T11:09:00.000-05:00Mac informed the other day that when he's big he's...Mac informed the other day that when he's big he's going to have his own television show to build things. David is now convinced he wants to be Tommy Walsh.Nunhead Mum of Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00404470570265084130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7290395635850697105.post-49001231387002712082008-11-17T10:34:00.000-05:002008-11-17T10:34:00.000-05:00It would have to depend entirely on the documentar...It would have to depend entirely on the documentary subject. Definitely not about their private school attendance though.<BR/>I can't stand snobbery - especially between kids because they have done NOTHING to get where they are, posh or not. It used to bug the cr*p out of me when I was at uni that some super rick kids used to lord it over everyone else, as if they had earned all their parents' money.Expat mumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17798190669591053390noreply@blogger.com